From: proclus realm 
 Subject: [Gnu-darwin-distribution] GNU-Darwin: DC 7/17:  We Are The Stakeholders!
    Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:46:24 EDT
      To: "Balint, Jess" 
      Cc: gnu-darwin-distribution@lists.sourceforge.net
Reply-To: proclus@gnu-darwin.org


For me the point is in the slogan.  This meeting appears to be a
self-congratualory handshake between a bunch of CEOs, where the voters
will be excluded from the decisions of their government.  

http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/dmca-celebration-may02.html

In their brashness, they think they can make it an open meeting, with
public 
comments, because they feel that the people are inured into helplessness.  
By showing up and making a little noise, we show them that the people
are the real stakeholders, not the corporations, and that we are ready
to take democratic action now, especially if they plan to buy off the
regulators and legislators.   I wish I could be there.

This is also the message of these unusual posts to the GNU-Darwin
lists, and of our Freedom News page.  

http://www.gnu-darwin.org/news.php

We will stand up and let them know that we are watching, that we see
what they are trying to do, that we object to it.  We will engage  them
at every turn with our innovation and by exercising our rights.  Someone
must say NO to these IP bullies, and I'm happy that GNU-Darwin can be
part of that assertion.

Vigilance is the operative word.  If we are not strong, then open
standards, free software, fair use, and even free speech will be
bulldozed for the profit of a few depraved and already wealthy
individuals.  They have shown us with their media what they want
for America, and it is a disgusting picture.  Their intention is clear, 
but our stridency is thus enabled.  We must put them 
back in their place, and we must do it now while we still can, before it is
too late.

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/


On 12 Jul, Balint, Jess wrote:
> I do not wish to discount this meeting, I think it is a good opportunity,
> but who is going to be there to represent us, the people, that will be
able
> to take some of our ideas into the higher levels of government?
> 
> Some bills are or were floating around in Congress with possible DRM
> solutions that were presented by large media companies. How do we ever
get
> heard? Is a rep from Congress going to be there? Maybe one or two state
> senators?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: proclus [mailto:proclus@gnu-darwin.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: gnu-darwin-distribution@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Gnu-darwin-distribution] FWD: DC 7/17: We Are The
> Stakeholders!
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks to Seth, and I hope that some GNU-Darwinists will be
interested
> and able to attend.  
> 
> Regards,
> proclus
> http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
> 
>     From: Seth Johnson 
>  Subject: DC 7/17:  We Are The Stakeholders!
>     Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:04:09 -0400
>       To: C-FIT_Community@realmeasures.dyndns.org,  
> C-FIT_Release_Community@realmeasures.dyndns.org,  
> fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com, hangout@nylxs.com, rms@gnu.org,  
> kmarks@gnu-darwin.org, tompoe@renonevada.net, DMCA_Discuss@lists.microshaft.org,
 
> DMCA-Activists@gnu.org, Free-Sklyarov@zork.net
>       Cc: doctorow@craphound.com, schoen@eff.org,
> sbrown@emoglen.law.columbia.edu
> 
> 
> WE ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS!
> 
> This coming Wednesday, July 17th, the United States Commerce
> Department is conducting a Public Workshop on digital
> entertainment and "rights management."  This "workshop" will
> be constituted of a panel including the MPAA's Jack Valenti,
> the RIAA's Mitch Glazier, Microsoft's Andrew Moss, and
> representatives for Disney, IBM, Intel, Vivendi Universal,
> EMI, and ContentGuard.  Please see the media releases pasted
> below for details.
> 
> These panelists represent the major forces who have prompted
> Congress to propose such radical measures as Senator Fritz
> Holling's CBDTPA Bill, which proposes to require content
> control to be built into all computers.
> 
> Since the public holds the largest stake in the prospects of
> digital information and communications technology, it is
> crucial that a strong showing be made at this meeting.
> 
> If you can attend this meeting, please do so.  If you
> can't,  please forward this message to any interested
> parties that you know.  Please reply to this email and let
> your interest in participating be known.  A group is being
> put together to attend this meeting and declare in no
> uncertain terms:
> 
> WE ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS!
> 
> Please attend, spread the word, reply to let it be known
> that you are participating, and help us put together a
> strong message and presentation of our concerns regarding
> this issue.
> 
> Seth Johnson
> 
> 
> ----
> 
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1EC62531
> 
> SUMMARY: The United States Department of Commerce Technology
> Administration (TA) announces a public workshop on digital
> entertainment and its availability to consumers. The
> workshop will help gather data on such issues as the status
> of technical standards that provide the framework necessary
> to enable legitimate digital media distribution and the
> present state of strengths, weaknesses and availability of
> current and imminent technological solutions to protect
> digital content, barriers that are inhibiting movies, music
> and games from coming online.
> 
> DATES: This workshop will be held on July 17, 2002, from 1
> p.m.-4 p.m.
> 
> ADDRESSES: The workshop will be held at the Herbert C.
> Hoover Building, 1401 Constitution Avenue, NW., Room 4830,
> Washington, DC. Entrance on 14th between Pennsylvania and
> Constitution Aves., NW.
> 
> FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Further information
> relevant to the substantive issues to be addressed by this
> workshop may be obtained from Chris Israel Deputy Assistant
> Secretary for Technology Policy, Technology Administration,
> (202) 482-5687. Limited seating will be available to members
> of the general public. It is recommended that persons
> wishing to become general public attendees arrive early, as
> seating will be first come, first served.
> 
> SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: Pursuant to its statutory
> authority found at 15 U.S.C. 3704(c), the Technology
> Administration is authorized, among other things, to conduct
> technology policy analyses to improve United States
> industrial productivity, technology, and innovation,
> cooperate with United States industry in the improvement of
> its productivity, technology, and ability to compete
> successfully in world markets, and identify technological
> needs, problems, and opportunities within and across
> industrial sectors, that, if addressed, could make a
> significant contribution to the economy of the United
> States.
> 
>       With these responsibilities in mind, the Technology
> Administration is planning on holding a moderated series of
> informal discussions with relevant stakeholders to gather
> information on the availability of digital entertainment and
> status of copyright protection and rights management tools. 
> The discussions will help gather data on such issues as the
> strength, weaknesses and availability of technological
> solutions, as well as network capability, and the proper
> role for the Government in facilitating solutions that are
> best for innovation and best for consumers.
> 
>       Topics to be addressed at the workshop include:
> 
>      - The effectiveness of efforts to pursue technical
> standards or solutions that are designed to provide a more
> predictable and secure environment for digital transmission
> of copyright material;
> 
>      - Major obstacles facing an open commercial exchange of
> digital content;
> 
>      - What a future framework for success might entail;
> 
>      - Current consumer attitude towards online
> entertainment.
> 
>       The workshop will focus on these and other related
> issues. Anyone wishing to comment on these or raise related
> issues is free to do so, either in writing before the
> meeting, or in person at the meeting. Prior comments will be
> collected via the Technology Administration Web
> site--www.ta.doc.gov/ requested by July 11, 2002.
> 
>       Authority: This work effort is being initiated
> pursuant to TA's statutory responsibilities, codified at
> section 3704 of Title 15 of the United States Code.
> 
>       Dated: June 28, 2002.
> 
> Phillip J. Bond,
> Undersecretary of Commerce for Technology.
> [FR Doc. 02-16740 Filed 7-2-02; 8:45 am]
> BILLING CODE 3510-18-M
> 
> ----
> 
> http://www.ta.doc.gov/PRel/ma020710.htm
> 
> MEDIA ADVISORY   
>  
> Workshop on Digital Content and "Rights Management"
> 
> Officials Will Be Joined by Representatives of the
> Entertainment and Tech Industries 
> 
> Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:00 PM ?4:00 PM
> U.S. Department of Commerce, Room 4830
> 14th and Constitution Avenues, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20230
> 
> 
> Phil Bond, Under Secretary of Commerce for Technology and
> Chief of Staff to Secretary Don Evans, and James Rogan,
> Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property, will
> co-chair a roundtable discussion on the subject of digital
> content and rights management. 
> 
> This roundtable discussion builds upon a December 17, 2001
> Technology Administration workshop that took an in-depth
> look at both technical and policy questions standing in the
> way of widespread availability of legitimate digital content
> over the Internet. 
> 
> The focus of this event will include: progress toward
> technical standards that provide the framework necessary to
> enable legitimate digital media distribution, developments
> in the market for digital content as well as consumer
> perceptions and expectations, and the proper role for the
> government in facilitating solutions that are best for
> innovation and best for consumers. 
> 
> Forrester Research estimates that by 2003 the market for
> digital downloads will be worth $2 billion, and that by 2004
> up to 25% of all online music sales will be downloads. Many
> business leaders and government officials believe the wide
> availability of high-quality, legal digital content remains
> a key to further expediting penetration of broadband
> Internet services in the U.S. and the expansion of important
> technology-based industries. 
> 
> Co-chairs Bond and Rogan will be joined by:
> 
> - Jack Valenti, of Motion Picture Association of America
> - Rhett Dawson, of Information Technology Industry Council
> - Joe Tasker, of Information Technology Association of
> America
> - Mitch Glazier, Record Industry Association of America
> - Jon Potter, Digital Media Association
> - Stewart Vendery, Vivendi Universal
> - Preston Padden, Disney
> - Mike Miron, ContentGuard
> - Rick Lane, News Corp
> - Gordon Lyon, NIST
> - Rob Reid, Listen.com
> - Phillip Maggi, Computer Systems Policy Project
> - Tim Sheehy, IBM
> - Andrew Moss, Microsoft
> - Ted Cohen, EMI
> - Doug Comer, Intel
> - Bob Schwartz, McDermott, Will & Emery (representing CEA
> and the Home Recording Rights Coalition.)
> 
> In preparation for this workshop, the Technology
> Administration invites public comment on our website at:
> http://www.ta.doc.gov/comments/comments.htm.
> 
> 
> Contacts:  Cheryl Mendonsa, Technology Administration
> Telephone: 202 482-8321
> Email: cheryl.mendonsa@ta.doc.gov, or 
> 
> Marjorie Weisskohl, Technology Administration
> Telephone: 202 482-0149
> Email: Mweisskohl@ta.doc.gov
> 
> 
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